“They Cut Him Up While He Was Still Alive”: Grisly Details Of Saudi Journalist Killing Emerge

Speaking again on the subject of Khashoggi, President Trump emphasized the importance of maintaining the US’s business relationship with the Saudis, and added that the public would hear the full story of what happened by “the end of the week.” Trump added that the US “needs Saudi Arabia’s help” in the fight against terrorism. Trump also said he has requested the audio tapes that the Turkish government claims to have which should prove that Khashoggi was murdered “if they exist.”

Meanwhile, after his meeting with Turkish officials in Ankara, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to speculate about whether Khashoggi was alive or dead.

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“I don’t want to talk about any of the facts. They didn’t want to either,” Pompeo said.

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Speaking with reporters during his trip to Turkey, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo repeated his comments about the Saudis promising a “thorough, transparent” investigation that will be conducted “in a timely fashion.”

Per Bloomberg:

“They told me they were going to conduct a thorough, complete, transparent investigation” and made a commitment to holding anyone connected to any wrongdoing accountable, Pompeo told reporters Wednesday as he headed to Turkey, where the journalist was last seen entering the kingdom’s consulate in Istanbul.

Nobody from the Trump administration has responded to the latest explosive allegations about Khashoggi’s death, though it’s worth noting that Turkish officials who have spurred claims about Saudi’s role in Khashoggi’s disappearance haven’t produced any tangible evidence – though Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has promised a “thorough” investigation.

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While President Trump would love it if the Western media, along with prominent executives in tech and finance, would buy Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman’s claims that he had “no knowledge” of the confrontation at the Saudis’ consulate in Istanbul that’s believed to have precipitated the killing of insider-turned-Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, yet more evidence has emerged this morning to contradict the official Saudi narrative.

Trial balloons floated by the kingdom in the Western press, as well as Trump’s own suggestions, point to “rogue operatives”, but in a story published last night, the New York Times managed to corroborate Turkish officials’ claims that several suspected members of the 15-man ‘hit squad’ have been directly linked with MbS.

And now, in what has been billed as the first glimpse of the grisly circumstances of Khashoggi’s murder, the Middle East Eye and the Wall Street Journal have reported that “it took seven minutes for Khashoggi to die.”

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But in what was probably the most gruesome details from the report, MEM reported that Dr. Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, who was identified by the Times and other media outlets as an “autopsy expert” whose presence cuts against Saudis’ suggestions that the killing wasn’t premeditated, started cutting Khashoggi’s body into pieces while the journalist was unconscious, but still breathing. Previously, Khashoggi had been knocked unconscious after being injected with a mysterious substance.

MEM attributed its information to a person who had listened to the Turkish government’s recording of the murder (its agents had apparently bugged the Saudi consulate, which is unsurprising given the tense relations between the two Muslim powers that only deteriorated during last year’s Qatari crisis). That recording, which hasn’t been publicly shared, has served as the basis for dozens of media reports about Khashoggi’s death. According to this source, after arriving at the consulate, Khashoggi was dragged from the consul-general’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul into his study next door, before being pinned down on the table and injected with an unknown substance. During the attack, horrifying screams were heard by witnesses.

After Khashoggi had been knocked unconscious (never to awaken again), al-Tubaigy put on his headphones and started the grim process of dismembering the body with a bone saw.

Tubaigy began to cut Khashoggi’s body up on a table in the study while he was still alive, the Turkish source said. The killing took seven minutes, the source said.

As he started to dismember the body, Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music. He advised other members of the squad to do the same.

“When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do [that] too,” Tubaigy was recorded as saying, the source told MEE.

A three-minute version of the audio tape has been given to Turkish newspaper Sabah, but they have yet to release it.

A Turkish source told the New York Times that Tubaigy was equipped with a bone saw. He is listed as the president of the Saudi Fellowship of Forensic Pathology and a member of the Saudi Association for Forensic Pathology.

Later, the NYT reported that the hit squad cut off Khashoggi’s fingers while he was still conscious during an interrogation where he was also beaten and tortured before being dragged into another room where they finished butchering him.

According to WSJ, voices on the tapes can be heard asking the Saudi consul to leave his office before the hit squad murdered Khashoggi. The consul, Mohammad al-Otaibi, departed Turkey for Riyadh Tuesday afternoon after the Saudis, in a sudden reversal, denied Turkey’s requests to search Otaibi’s residence, saying his home was off limits to investigators.

When Otaibi objected to the killing happening in his office, he was told to shut up “if he wanted to live.”

“Do this outside. You will put me in trouble,” Mr. al-Otaibi, the consul, told them, according to the Turkish official and the report in Yeni Safak, both citing audio recordings said to have been obtained by Turkish intelligence.

“If you want to live when you come back to Arabia, shut up,” one of the agents replied, according to both the official and the newspaper.

“Horrendous tortures were committed on Khashoggi, who came to the consulate for documents,” the Yeni Safak account said.

Should other media organizations confirm these reports (which has become a pattern since Khashoggi disappeared into the consulate on Oct. 2 after being asked to return to pick up a marriage license), calls for sanctions, an arms sales ban – or even the deposing of Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman could grow louder.

But while MbS remains ensconced in his protective shield of power, those directly involved in the killing have good reason to be afraid. The United Nations human rights chief Michelle Bachelet has called for the lifting of diplomatic immunity for any facilities and persons tied to the killing, which means that, even if Saudi Arabia gives its nominal “rogue operatives” a pass, extradition requests from Turkey or another UN member would greatly increase their chances of arrest.

via www.zerohedge.com

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23 comments

  1. Please study the Koran and you will find that this is normal treatment for infidels who make up 99% with US citizenship. They have zero remorse because another’s life has no value.
    Now I would like those who love open borders explain why you want these peace loving, friendly people as your neighbor, political leaders or judges.
    I will never vote for a Democrat again.
    MAGA

    1. The liberals love that about the muslims……..They marry them, and learn to adhere to the Quran & its killing ways…….Liberals love the chaos, killing, and raping that goes with the muslim life.

      Those muslim men marry 2 yr. olds and are widely know as “PERVERTS”……..They do not want women to have an education…….They are the EVIL that is existing on the WHOLE PLANET……..

      1. Actually being a Progressive Liberal this looks a lot like rightwing Evangelical sharia law. You gotta love the Conservatives lie and imply that will get them everytime!

        1. There is nothing about the Quran or this that even hints at right wing Evangelicals! And, with the Democrat leaders loudly calling for violence, it looks more like a Liberal left Democrat act of aggression.

        2. Kevin, What on God’s earth would make you equate this to Evangelicals.? Take a look at something OTHER than CNN; which as we all know, was weaponized by the people who’ve brainwashed you into donning genital hats, screaming for the breaking of laws to pacify their thirst for power, and constant moaning and groaning about things that for the most part fly, in the face of rule of law written a Constitution they’ve spat on and weakened – If you think that’s not by design, then you might also want to pick up a history book and see just how the media was used to whip up a frenzy amongst the population, and justify a World War that saw tens of millions killed. Your finger-pointing is really just a bad joke on yourself.
          When your party laughs at national security, screams out about freedom of speech and then shuts it down unless it aligns their your own pathetic mantra, aligns themselves with groups like Black Lives Matter after that group’s legitimate message was lost amidst the violence and paid protests calling for the killing of police, accuses white women and their abusive husbands of costing a criminal her bought presidency while touring the world, and seats a man in the oval office TWICE who turned a blind eye to his own town turning into a cesspool while touring the globe apologizing and ridiculing his own country, you should hardly be casting stones, my friend.
          If you think kicking and screaming and being a hypocrite gets you treated any differently than you see conservatives treating you (like a kicking child throwing a tantrum, ignoring their ill-informed every whim is the best medicine), then I’d suggest you watch the upcoming elections. This time, rather than telling the world that it’s gunna end, and behaving like pathetic children, I hope, for the sake of the country, the Dems grow up!

        3. Hey Kevin,
          Show me any evangelicals who marry & f**k little girls, remove women’s clits, stone women to death for the slightest aggravation, keep & sell sex slaves, impose their beliefs by violence or blow themselves and others up in the name of Christ, you f**king a$$hole!!

    2. How any one can approve of allowing open borders , that would allow these type of people in is beyond belief. Need that border wall immediately.
      Congress should not stall any longer.

      1. What happen in Turkey in none of our business, but these dims just want to go after the president, they could give a rats ass about this if it did not cause a problem for trump?.
        This guy was a reporter that why they are up in arms nothing else. What about are people that have been killed not a damn word?????

        1. You’re right but Trump needs to let the punk Prince burn and distance himself from a situation that can only hurt him and his agenda to MAGA. F**k the ragheads, weapons sales and their oil, we don’t need any of that nearly enough to sustain the filthy strings that are attached!

  2. This was a Wahhabi hit.
    The Wahhabis are the radical party that took over Saudi Arabia in 1975 when King Faisal was killed by his nephew.
    Since then, Saudi Arabia has been responsible for 90% of all terrorism.
    This includes Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, ISIS and the 911 hijackers.
    Actually, 15 of the 19 hijackers were Wahhabi Saudis
    These are the guys that started the myth of the 72 virgins and increased repression of women.
    Google Alistar Crooke about Saudi Arabia and the Wahhabis.

  3. This is a stupid article. They don’t even know if he is alive or dead. They have no idea where he is . They just want to blame someone for something when they don’t even know what happened. Before you accuse someone of murder, you have to have a body. Right now, they have nothing.

  4. Jamal Kashoggi, a Washington Post journalist apparently was ignorant of the fact that when he walked into the Saudi Embassy, he was walking into Saudi controlled land or Saudi sovereign territory! They had been trying to lure him back to his homeland of Saudi Arabia and he of his own volition entered Saudi territory even if it was located in Turkey!

  5. It was just a matter of time until they these Trump loving misfits blamed the DEMS. Get real – I know lets blame JFK , Clinton or Obama since you are blaming DEMS for this tragedy. You folks a so oblivious to Trumps actions , you are just as bad.

    1. Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi! At this point what difference does it make? NOW you are worried about some rat that isn’t even American but Chris Stevens who begged for hours for his life and was an AMERICAN was ignored by your precious Obama and Hillary. They went to bed! So just Shut up!

  6. Put these savages in a meat grinder see how they like it. Sick of these muslim savages. Give them same treatment. Moderate is an oxymoron, they are complicit with the Koran.

  7. lots of countries we deal with do horrible things south africa encourages blacks to rape and kill whites who own farms they want for blacks we are in the process of making peace with North Korea and we all know what they have done this poor guy’s death is a shame but not worth disrupting the planet over no matter who killed him and how

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