‘Nothing Illegal In Trump-Zelensky Call’: NSC Official Tells Impeachment Inquiry

A top National Security Council official who was present on a July 25 phone call between President Trump and Volodomyr Zelensky, Tim Morrison, told House investigators on Thursday that he does not believe anything illegal was discussed, according to The Federalist.

Tim Morrison

I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed,” said Tim Morrison, former NSC Senior Director for European Affairs who was on the July 25 call between the two leaders.

Morrison also testified that the transcript of the phone call which was declassified and released by the White House “accurately and completely reflects the substance of the call.”

Morrison testified that Ukrainian officials were not even aware that certain military funding had been delayed by the Trump administration until late August 2019, more than a month after the Trump-Zelensky call, casting doubt on allegations that Trump somehow conveyed an illegal quid pro quo demand during the July 25 call.

I have no reason to believe the Ukrainians had any knowledge of the [military funding] review until August 28, 2019,” Morrison said. That is the same day that Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the chief anti-Trump inquisitor in the U.S. House of Representatives, disclosed on Twitter that funding had been held up. Politico also published a story that day, sourced to anonymous leaks, that military funding had been temporarily held up. –The Federalist

Notably, Morrison quit the day before his testimony.

Last week, Morrison was named during testimony earlier this month by William Taylor, Trump’s top envoy to Ukraine, according to Politico.

William Taylor

As we reported earlier today of Morrison, following the call, Morrison informed Taylor that it “could have gone better,” and that Trump suggested Zelensky and his staff meet with Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr.

Morrison’s hawkish views align with those of Bolton and he has been described as a creature of process by some close to him.

Bolton always told those who worked for him that process was their protector and sometimes you have to listen to the person elected — advice Morrison adopted, sources said.

Morrison is a lifelong Republican described as a Reaganite and is referred to as “‘Bolton’s Bolton, he is really hard right,” according to one source familiar with Morrison. –CNN

“The NSC process does not allow anything that isn’t legal. It just, it would never get to the President. Certainly not any process that Tim was ever a part of,” said one source close to Morrison. “A piece of paper does not get to the national security adviser without first going through the lawyers, much less to the President.”

Taylor also said that Morrison witnessed Trump Ally Gordon Sondland convey a quid pro quo arrangement;

Taylor also described a conversation in which Morrison relayed word from Sondland that Trump had told Sondland directly that Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky should publicly announce the investigations.

House impeachment investigators are exploring whether Trump conditioned nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine — and a White House visit for Zelensky — on Ukraine’s willingness to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, as well as a debunked theory that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections.

Taylor told lawmakers that Morrison relayed concerns about Trump’s posture toward Ukraine to then-national security adviser John Bolton and to NSC lawyers. –Politico

According to Morrison, the national security process worked as designed.

“I am pleased our process gave the president the confidence he needed to approve the release of the security sector assistance,” he said, adding “I am proud of what I have been able, in some small way, to help the Trump administration accomplish.”

Earlier Thursday, House Democrats (all but two) approved impeachment procedures against President Trump. No Republicans voted for the measure.

via zerohedge


  1. Hatred is an all-consuming emotion; it is unfortunate that the so-called “never Trumpers” and demoncrap socialists (especially those in our Congress) are ruining their lives through their hatred. I despised Reagan and Ovomit, but sure didn’t act the way these people are. Congressional members are derelict in their sworn duties to their constituents–not one is performing the business of law-making. Furthermore, those finger–pointers should realize that those pointing their fingers are twice as guilty as the one they are pointing at. PRESIDENT Trump is not a perfect human being; there is no such thing as a perfect human being, but he is doing a superb job as our PRESIDENT. With respect to the now odious Ukraine Phone Call, PRESIDENT Trump did NOT DO ANYTHING that can be construed as disloyal, unpatriotic, or illegal; he didn’t even initiate that call–the Ukrainian President did. Leave it to the traitorous, seditionists who call themselves demoncraps to distort every word the PRESIDENT says. Demoncraps today remind me of the groupies who hated Jesus during His time on this earth–they did everything they could right up to the time of His death, but they sure didn’t win did they!

  2. So what does this mean? Nothing or nothing at all. The Baby Butchering party does not need proof that Trump conducted a quid pro quo or pay to play or any other bs, it’s a smoke screen to the real point that they control the house and don’t need our President breaking any laws to impeach him. They can impeach him because they control the house and can use any excuse. The butchers also know that the majority of America is so damn stupid on the process that they can say it was because of Ukraine and most wont know the difference and will assume Trump committed a crime. It’s simple, it’s a political move and a play on words. Kind of like the fake media does on selling a story. President Trump told us in 2016 that he would be tweeting because he didn’t want a corrupt media twisting his words and telling lies on him. He’s proved his point!

  3. They’re not going to impeach him unless they gain control of the Senate in 2020. That’s the real nightmare scenario. A Democratic Senate and House, even if they don’t win the White House. They will shove laws through that will effectively reduce this nation to a socialist state or initiate a civil war.
    Even if they do actually try him in Congress, it won’t pass the Senate.

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